It's a poor state of affairs if an almighty god has to resort to violence to correct the problems with his own creation. It just reflects the Iron Age mentality of the writers of Bible texts who knew that power was only gained from military victory.
Half banana
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Using violence to end violence?
by stuckinarut2 init really is mind blowing when we think about it : witnesses have no problem with a deity who will use violence in order to end violence?!?!.
armageddon will be gods war to kill billions of people...because it shows his love?.
thoughts?.
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Told My Parents Yesterday That I Don't Want to Be a JW
by Saethydd ini wasn't entirely sure what to expect when i made the decision to tell my parents how i really feel, but i was prepared for the worst, fortunately, it didn't come to that.
after i told them i didn't want to go to the meetings anymore it led to a long talk with them.
they made a number of irksome and woefully uninformed statements but at least they were not aggressive and have said that they won't force me to move out over this, though, i can tell they are hoping they can convince me to "accept the truth," as long as i still live with them.
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Half banana
What planet are you on Shadow?
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Are Jehovah's Witnesses Mind Numbingly Boring To You?
by minimus ini honestly think they are the most boring people on earth!
even when they produce their so called "new light", there's no excitement.
jws just do their thing and refuse to think about their useless lives.
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Half banana
To us here they are boring because we know exactly how they think... it's the cult of the brain dead and yet we must have been there once!
Never are JWs allowed to come up with original ideas, that privilege belongs only to their leaders-- and then they only modify their viewpoint to make the dumb belief system a bit less implausible.
JWs are snuggly smug in their absolute certainty about future rewards even though their history always proves them hopelessly wrong.
When it comes to family, they are often cagey or prickly on certain subjects and the true believers are always distant and edged with anxiety. What a relief to have escaped!
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You tired of me asking for help yet?
by vienne inan early watch tower evangelist was e. c. leigh.
in 1882, he was a student in allegheny city, pennsylvania.
he traveled through the central states in the 1880s and early 1890s.
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Half banana
Rachael you are doing a sterling job getting to the roots of the Watchtower. It is necessary for you to enquire at this site since a few here are fifth generation Bible Students/ JWs. However there is little sense of WT history at the family level among witnesses.
Since Armageddon has been imminent for one hundred and thirty years, perhaps mementoes and records of the earlier days are discarded as irrelevant or even undesirable, the past is often lost in the churn of doctrine. Only what the governing body is now saying has relevance to the mind of the JW.
But do keep on asking.......
What brought you to this obscure corner of research?
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If you had to start life again what employment would you choose?
by Chook inwe might have a fully functional community from this forum.
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Half banana
It's a tough choice! window cleaner/pioneer or a kamikaze pilot?
but then being a JW does mess with decision making.........
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Apostasy endorsed in this yesterday's Watchtower Study
by doubtfull1799 in“there may be occasions when it would be good for us to reconsider a choice or decision.
it could be when the prevailing circumstances change.
jehovah altered his decision at times when circumstances changed.
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Half banana
I don't think apostasy could ever be endorsed by the GB. It sounds to me as if they are building up a portfolio of Watchtower statements as evidence to deny the accusation that they control the minds and lives of the rank and file JWs.
When accused of being dictatorial in their dealings with members they can now point out to the courts to a number of published statements which put the leadership in a relaxed and easy going light not making demands about what their abject followers should do or think.
This is because the biggest threat to the cushy number they are on is under threat from extremely expensive legal cases over their arrogant handling of paedophilia in the congregations. The point they want to make is, "Its nothing to do with us". However they do have total control over their members, if they did not their authority would decline, JWs would start to think for themselves and the org would fall apart.
Yet as the lawyers know from the ARC example, what the Org says is not what the JWs will be expected to believe.
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Half banana
I must add Poopie that who cares whether ministerile serpents are allowed to stand on their heads or not. This religion is for zombies not for people with a life to lead.
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I want to know what celebrations JWs don't consider pagan?
by Chook ini could only think of weddings and wedding anniversaries .
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Half banana
Chook, I think the only thing the GB wish the sheep to celebrate is their own utterly useless role in the non-outworking of Big J's divine plan. Or do you think I am a trifle jaundiced in my viewpoint?
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Quote of the day
by joe134cd ini heard a quote today that just blew my mind.. "the english bible to catholicisim is what the internet is to jwisim.
the question is the extent of reformation that will take place.
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Half banana
The internet to JWism is like Dutch elm disease is to elm trees.
Or better still
The internet to JWism is like the European settlers in Mauritius were to the dodo.
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I want to know what celebrations JWs don't consider pagan?
by Chook ini could only think of weddings and wedding anniversaries .
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Half banana
JWs don't consider the memorial of Jesus death pagan, they think it is "scriptural".
But they never for one moment stop to think that sacrificing a human for the sake of others followed by communal eating the flesh of the sacrificed body and drinking its blood has chilling echoes of full blown pagan ritual.
The Bible is drawn from paganism.